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JastinKey
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Posted 2 Years, 6 Months ago #1
Off Topic ' Happy New Year to Alt.surfing'

Now back OnTopic Any one here own one or ridden one? Compared to the polyester and styrene blanks, how's it feel? If the price of a balsa board were comparable to the price a foam board, which would you prefer?
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kdog181518
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Posted 2 Years, 5 Months ago #2
A fellow paipo rider that lives near you swears by his balsa Greenough-inspired paipos.
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ukmasterit
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Posted 2 Years, 5 Months ago #3
Jane???

Gracias. Lo propio amigo. Le deso a ti y a su famila muchas bendiciones y TUBOS en el dos mil cuatro
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JohnBStone
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Posted 2 Years, 5 Months ago #4
Never tried one, so I'd pick the balsa out of curiosity.
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Roger Steer
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Posted 2 Years, 5 Months ago #5
My best friend has a Skip Frye balsa board. It's never been ridden, though. It's hanging on the wall in his dining room. A very pretty board it is.

Turby the Turbosurfer
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JohnBStone
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Posted 2 Years, 5 Months ago #6
Bill Yerkes will let you take one out if you're curious, but I still prefer my foam board - it's heavy enough! Wood seems to hold a trim line easily, but I prefer foam - it's easier for me to turn, and to get around. Bill puts REALLY hard rails on his boards, too, which I'm not a big fan of. And I'd take foam, just because I like having new boards every so often...
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Posted 2 Years, 5 Months ago #7
Chris and Jan are in Indian Harbour Beach, FL. I am awaiting some pics to post to the paipo site. Also received a collection of about 6 pics of a paipo made from pine by a waverider in England (shows the stages of building based on the plans published in a 1930's edition of Popular
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ETTREK
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Posted 2 Years, 5 Months ago #8
Yes I am curious. Ill try giving Bill a call in a little bit. Problem with Bill and his shapes is that, as you know, he is a 'traditionalist', heavy. But since you mentioned heavy, what got me thinking about balsa is my heavy board. The board you saw me on weighs about fifty pounds, a G&S replica of the Surfboards Hawaii model A with the offset stringers. Heavy mother but what a glide. The only issue with the weight was/is the distance between my garage and my truck and the distance from the parking lot to the break at Florida's answer to SanO( you know OC). Another thing that has me curious stems from the diffrence between my foam blank boards, polyester and epoxy. Big diffrence between feels, penetration on wave face, resistance to dings.Each has it's own pro's. I like the epoxy, but prefer the foam. So my curiosity has lead me to consider shaping a balsa board. Ive been looking for a source of balsa planks to build my own and have found that it can be expensive. So before I invest the time and cash, Id like to give one a try.
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Posted 2 Years, 5 Months ago #9
Harbour Beach, FL. I am awaiting some pics to Thats right down the street from me. Did they shape it themselves? Zap me an email with their email to see if they'd mind me talking to them about it.
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Posted 2 Years, 5 Months ago #10
Done.

The balsa wood paipo from your area is George Robinson. You can find a coule of pics at The League of Lamaroos web site:
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Mercury74
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Posted 2 Years, 5 Months ago #11
here's my 2 cents from recent balsa experience - -

i have seen 2 balsa made recently by different shapers, each with 30+ years of experience and both well-known in the industry, having worked with and learned from the icons such as weber, duesendorffer, frye, etc etc in the 60's and 70's.

each shaper made their own blanks by gluing balsa planks together like a cutting board.

shaper no. 1: each plank was first 'chambered' by basically hollowing out the center of the plank using a router, then glued together. the chambering greatly reduces the weight. the board is then shaped as usual, although with more hand planing than with foam. the only problem is i he miscalculated and actually shaped through the wood to the chamber in one area, but he fixed it 'ok'. the board is gorgeous, and has been ridden, but is mainly a wall hanger. its a 9'3 or 9'6 i think, and weighs about 40 lbs. this shaper has a full time business doing dozens of boards per month.

shaper no 2: this is my shaper of late, he is very good but very meticulous, and does this as a second job producing 5 to 8 boards per month. his balsa method is to spot glue the planks togther with a sheet or two of newspaper between the planks. he then shapes the board to 90% completion or so, breaks the planks apart, chambers them, then reglues and finishes the shaping. more work, more time, but it shows. the board he is presently making is a 9'0 rhino chaser, weighing in at 12 lbs on the blank, and should be about 20 lbs upon completion. given the lesser volume of a rhino chaser compared to the longboard abovem, it still appears to be a better chambering job. this was awesome balsa, owned for 20 yrs by the surfer having the board shaped, stored in an attic the entire time and with a built in warp that is almost perfect rocker already.

shaper no. 2 made my most recent and most prized surfboard ever this past year, a foam blank with balsa rails. we started with an epoxy blank acquired from shaper no. 1, who has the best epoxy system in the industry, having the foam made here locally at 2 lbs/cf. we did not chamber the balsa on this board. as finished, the balsa comes in about 2.5 inches at the wide point, and runs 7' of length. i added nose and tail blocks that i made from balsa and redwood, fitting each to the board on a curve, as well as some balsa inlays. the transition from balsa to foam and back made for some interesting shaping challenges.

the board is gorgeous and rides like a dream, i have been able to test it on 8 to 12 foot faces twice this fall, as well as our typical texas surf. at 1/4 inch shy of 10', it weighs in at a svelte 20lbs, even without scimping on the s glass and epoxy resin give it an extra durability to help counteract the ding hazards of epoxy foam. hanging around the shop during construction, i kept meticulous records on the volume and density of the balsa, the foam, weighing the blank before shaping and again before glassing, and collecting and weighing the foam and balsa dust - so i know exactly how much resin/foam/balsa/glass i have in it. i have no idea what i will ever do with this data, but its pretty cool to have it. my shaper says with proper chambering, easy on the glass, a 9'3 or 9'6 could be as little as 25 lbs.

the long and short - - talk to your shaper and make sure he knows what he is doing. not just any shaper can handle balsa correctly. also know your balsa and its origin and history, i doubt you will luck into 20-year old premium balsa like i did, but try to get the best you can. also be prepared to lay out some cash. further, i am pretty sure my shaper will be glad to give you or your shaper a little advice here and there, let you know anyone he knows in florida that knows balsa, or better yet - you may even consider using him.

look for the return of surfgeo.com soon, totally redone
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